graham gouldman - 5th july 2002
Carl Wayne: By the miracle of
communication, we have on the line the brilliant Graham Gouldman. Graham,
howíre you doing?
Hello Carl, how are you?
CW: Well, Iím
fine! So, why thirty years, Graham, after ďThe Graham Gouldman ThingĒ, why
have we had to wait thirty years for ďAnd Another Thing?Ē
GG: Oh, well I was
busy doing other things! (laughter from both) I had a few other things to do,
and because of 10cc, I suppose, and my work with Wax after that, I felt all the
songs I was writing and co-writing went into those projects. Then I had some
time on my hands and found that there were a few songs that Iíd written that I
really loved and for one reason or another didnít get placed with any other
artist. I decided it was time to put them down on another CD.
CW: I know what
youíre doing these days of course, because I worked with you recently, in
Belgium, we did a great gig in Genk.
right, good old Genk!
CW: What a great
band you have there. Rick Fen on guitarÖ.
GG: Yeah, itís a
great band, Iím very proud of the boys, theyíre wonderful musicians and good
friends as well.
CW: Itís nice
though, itís quality stuff, thatís what I like about it, itís really good.
Itís like when people come and watch the Hollies, or when you do a Hollies
show, one after the other these hits come and you keep thinking ďBlimey, Iíd
forgotten that one! And thereís another one, and thereís another one!Ē
GG: I know, it is
amazing. People come up and say exactly that after the shows. Thatís the thing
though, we want to remind people, particularly of the music of 10cc. There seems
to be almost a reaction against whatís been happening in pop music today.
There are people of our generation, if I may be so bold as to put us in the same
CW: Us old boys!
GG: ..yeah, they
want to hear good quality music. Thereís a lot of good mucic today thatís
fine, but a lot of our generation want to hear some proper pop stuff.
CW: Yeah, I agree,
thereís a fine line. I find that here on my programme, youíve just got to be
careful what you do play. Is it
today youíre doing Epsom, by the way?
GG: We did it last
CW: How was it?
GG: It was really
good, it was great. It was freezing, but it was really good.
CW: I did it last
year with The Hollies.
GG: The racecourse
is really looking after the punters, you know, they can come and have a great
afternoon or evening, and then watch the band as well. Wonderful audience.
CW: I know, I went
there thinking I was going to meet Lester Piggott and Willie Carson, but the
only thing I saw was a screen! About four horses, and that was about it! Anyway,
letís go back to this album, because we played a wonderful track called
ďDancing DaysĒ when we were trying to get you on the line. I mean, youíve
got some great musicians on this as well, havenít you?
GG: Yeah, and
great songwriters. Most of the songs I have co-written. I like collaboration
very much. Iíve worked with people in Nashville, I have a writing partner in
Italy, and some people in the UK as well. I like to mix it up a bit.
CW: Well, itís
quality stuff, isnít it?
GG: Well, we like
to think itís quality stuff!
CW: It is, aye,
itís quality stuff, lad! (in his best Yorkshire accent) I mean, when you think
of the stuff youíve done, itís all been quality stuff.
GG: Well, I hope
so, I think when youíre writing or performing or whatever youíre doing,
youíve got to please yourself first of all. It has to go through your own
filter before itís allowed out. If Iím embarrassed about something or think
itís rubbish, then Iím certainly not going to let anybody else hear it!
another track on here which of course I know, because you sent it to me some
time ago, called ďCan Anybody See?Ē which is very Gerry Rafferty, itís
lovely. You sent it to me for The Hollies primarily.
right, you phoned me up, asked me, and I acted upon your orders!
CW: Let me just
cross this bridge with you, donít you think itís time The Hollies recorded
GG: I think
thereís no doubt about it. I would imagine that you would be on a very major
label, but there are other important acts that are still recording, and putting
stuff out, and selling it, even if itís just via the internet.
CW: Of course.
GG: And theyíre
selling lots of records, you know, because thereís a market there. And how do
you know if thereís a market, you have to try it. But for a band like the
Hollies, a classic, established act, one of the backbones of the Sixties, which
is the backbone of everything else that followed, then I would say, yes, there
is a market for you. As I said to you when we were in Belgium, itís something
that Iíd love to be involved in.
CW: Well, Iím
going to twist the boysí arms, because weíre away again over the next week
in Germany. Iím certainly going to impress upon them, especially after
listening to this album.
GG: Carl, tell
them that you spoke to Graham, heís a little bit upset, he might have to send
the boys round!
CW: We got a boy
over here in Birmingham, called Big Albert! Graham, Iím
going to play you out today with a great track from this album. I wish you luck
with it, it should be a major success. Ladies and gentleman, this is Graham
Gouldman and ďAnd Another ThingĒ, thirty years after his first album. You
GG: Thank you very
CW: And this is a Graham Gouldman classic song, itís called ďYou Stole My Love"
Transcribed by Helen Macdonald for The Official Carl Wayne Website
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